{"id":567338,"date":"2024-10-03T11:05:09","date_gmt":"2024-10-03T10:05:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ibsintelligence.com\/?post_type=leadership-interview&p=567338"},"modified":"2025-05-06T07:21:18","modified_gmt":"2025-05-06T06:21:18","slug":"abn-amro-bank-live-with-cbas-ibas-frans-westdorp-product-owner-abn-amro-bank-richard-white-head-of-trade-finance-cba","status":"publish","type":"leadership-interview","link":"https:\/\/ibsintelligence.com\/leadership-interview\/abn-amro-bank-live-with-cbas-ibas-frans-westdorp-product-owner-abn-amro-bank-richard-white-head-of-trade-finance-cba\/","title":{"rendered":"ABN AMRO Bank live with CBA\u2019s IBAS, Frans Westdorp, Product Owner, ABN AMRO Bank & Richard White, Head of Trade Finance, CBA"},"content":{"rendered":"

ABN AMRO Bank has gone live using the Transaction Due Diligence (TDD) functionality now available within Norwegian software vendor Commercial Banking Applications\u2019 (CBA) IBAS GBF – Global Banking Factory<\/strong><\/p>\n

The ABN AMRO Bank<\/a> team worked closely with CBA<\/a> to develop the TDD capability which the bank is now actively using across its global trade finance operations to monitor transactions and flag suspicious activity. The solution enables the bank to immediately detect any unusual behaviour, helping to combat financial crime and ensure full compliance with national and international regulation.<\/p>\n

In IBAS, banks have the flexibility to design and optimise the due diligence structure and associated rules for themselves \u2013 covering both local and international regulatory requirements. In ABN AMRO Bank\u2019s case this helps ensure they meet Dutch regulatory requirements, together with all relevant international regulations in order to mitigate against fraud and suspicious activity and meet the requirements of all internal and external auditors.<\/p>\n

The successful go-live of IBAS TDD builds on the partnership between CBA and ABN AMRO Bank, which was established in 2023 with the signing of a five-year agreement.<\/p>\n

IBS Intelligence spoke with Frans Westdorp [FW], Product Owner Trade Finance<\/strong>, ABN AMRO Bank<\/strong> and Richard White [RW], Head of Trade Finance, CBA<\/strong>. What follows is an edited transcript of part of our interview \u2013 you can listen to the full version on the IBSi Views podcast.<\/p>\n

\"Frans
Frans Westdorp [FW], Product Owner Trade Finance, ABN AMRO Bank<\/strong><\/figcaption><\/figure>[FW] \u201cABN Amro is one of the leading banks in the Netherlands in traditional trade finance, that is, excluding commodity finance. Our focus area is Northwest Europe, with branches in Belgium, UK, Norway, and Greece.<\/p>\n

\u201cFirst of all, to understand transaction due diligence (TDD), it\u2019s a combination of anti-money laundering, terrorism finance, and sanctions screening. The majority of trade finance transactions are legitimate. The issue we had was that we had to be able to pinpoint the anomalies. What the TDD application does for us is compare previous transactions of our customers with new transactions.<\/p>\n

\u201cDo we see changes in the countries that the customer is dealing with? Do we see changes in the typical amount of the transaction that the customer is doing? Do we see a great increase of volume? In other words, we\u2019re trying to use a risk-based approach in assessing the validity of a transaction.<\/p>\n

How did CBA deliver the TDD capability?<\/strong><\/p>\n

[RW] \u201cThe key word is collaboration. It\u2019s essential when implementing complex banking solutions and making sure the bank\u2019s requirements are met. But in this case, I\u2019m not surprised at all about the excellent collaboration between CBA and ABN Amro, because we have a long and successful history of working together.<\/p>\n

\"Richard
Richard White [RW], Head of Trade Finance, CBA<\/strong><\/figcaption><\/figure>\u201cWe had quite a lot of discussions. Both parties have deep but also complementary knowledge and skills across banking and technology. In terms of the due diligence, we had lots of refinement sessions, we had lots of discussions, lots of demos, and we really kind of drilled down to the nitty-gritty details. But I think it\u2019s important to say that we are also aligned in terms of strategy and vision. We both share this focus for innovation in trade finance.<\/p>\n

How does the monitoring process work?<\/strong><\/p>\n

[RW] \u201cThe key point is that the bank can determine themselves by using the configuration tools for which transactions the due diligence should be performed. And this can be very simple, it can be very complex, and it\u2019s flexible and it\u2019s completely up to the bank.<\/p>\n

\u201cIt can be different for a product or product type or product area or business event. And here, I must emphasise that the bank is in control, which means that they can very quickly adjust to new regulatory requirements and new banking products. So, in a sense, the speed to market is immediate because the bank can immediately, using the configuration tools, make the changes without needing a new upgrade or release from us (CBA).<\/p>\n

\u201cOnce the configuration is in place, this is where the business intelligence and the automation kicks in. The system can automatically detect red flags or suspicious behaviour by leveraging business logic and data in the system.\u201d<\/p>\n

Can you manage rising regulatory complexity with TDD?<\/strong><\/p>\n

[FW] \u201cAs Richard already mentioned, we can ourselves determine which questions we want to ask and what we want to add. So, changes in international regulations can quite easily be adapted in the system. And indeed, there\u2019s an increased demand internationally for data, for proof of due diligence. Due to the flexibility of the system, we can easily adapt new regulations. That was one of the main demands that we had, flexibility in the system.\u201d<\/p>\n

Can the same TDD software be applied to other business areas?<\/strong><\/p>\n

[RW] Yes, it can. But just to give some context into the how and the why, if I could just step back and explain a bit about the IBAS concept and CBA\u2019s business model. Trade finance is just one product area. In IBAS, we also have solutions for payments, for factoring, for loans, for account management, just to name a few. But what we don\u2019t have, we don\u2019t have separate systems for different product areas.<\/p>\n

\u201cWe also don\u2019t have separate systems for different banks or countries. We have one single common global system, which is used for all products, and it runs on the same source code. This is made based on the principle that whilst you look at banking products on the surface, they can look very different, and some of them are very complex and very specialised, they share common characteristics at the core.<\/p>\n

\u201cTherefore, whether you\u2019re talking about the documentary credit, guarantee, a derivative, a loan, there\u2019s normally a start date, there\u2019s an end date, there\u2019s some kind of accounting, there\u2019s parties involved, there\u2019s risk, there\u2019s commission, there\u2019s interest.<\/p>\n

\u201cOnce we have this common framework in place, it\u2019s only natural that business objects, like transaction due diligence, apply to all banking products. And just to give another example, we have just one payment object, and that payment object is used, of course, in the payment applications, the payment product area, but it\u2019s also used in trade finance. It\u2019s also used in all other business products where a payment or settlement should be made.\u201d<\/p>\n

How has the TDD module improved ABN AMRO\u2019s trade finance operations?<\/strong><\/p>\n

[FW] \u201cIt\u2019s significantly improved our operating procedures and speed. In the past, employees had to search for historical data, and now the historical data is collected and compared by the system itself. So, on the one hand, it saves a lot of work.<\/p>\n

\u201cOn the other hand, as I mentioned earlier, the vast majority of trade finance transactions are legitimate. So, a user may get a bit sloppy in the assessment of transactions. And by aiding the user with a system, it doesn\u2019t only improve the efficiency, but also the reliability of the transaction due diligence. That\u2019s perhaps even worth more than the efficiency. But the efficiency is huge. Think about two to three minutes per transaction!\u201d<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

ABN AMRO Bank has gone live using the Transaction Due Diligence (TDD) functionality now available within Norwegian software vendor Commercial Banking Applications\u2019 (CBA) IBAS GBF – Global Banking Factory The ABN AMRO Bank team worked closely with CBA to develop the TDD capability which the bank is now actively using across its global trade finance […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":12,"featured_media":567341,"template":"","categories":[],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-567338","leadership-interview","type-leadership-interview","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"\nABN AMRO Bank live with CBA\u2019s IBAS, Frans Westdorp, Product Owner, ABN AMRO Bank & Richard White, Head of Trade Finance, CBA<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"ABN AMRO Bank has gone live using the Transaction Due Diligence (TDD) functionality now available within Norwegian software vendor CBA\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, 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